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Uberlayer comparison11/15/2022 ![]() ![]() (Proton FL, Argus Jacket - Octaloft, ME Kinesis Jacket - Octoyarn, Jöttnar Elvar - Thermolite) But there aren't any comparisons yet against other insulations. There are some hollow Fibre insulation on the market currently, which are advertised as a successor/superior to Polartec Alpha. It breathes much better going uphill with the Fleece panel on the back and sides and less insulation. įor ski-touring im using a Alpha-Hybrid by Mammut. Mine has no holes from bushes or ice tools yet, after a year.Īccording to one source they gonna change the Proton this winter and I'm not sure if for the good. The insulation and outer fabric is supposed to more durable compared to the active insulator competition. And there is some moisture buildup between the backpanel and backpack, but the inner liner wicks well so I don't feel clammy. I can comfortably climb in it around 20F (layered with 120merino+ light grid Fleece) If it's warmer and/or sunny I do overheat especially on the move/approach. It strikes a nice balance between wind resistance and breathability. UBERLAYER COMPARISON SERIESRenowned Free Solo Climber Alex Honnold uses the TNF Summit Series 元 Ventrix 1.0 version (he could have chosen any jacket from his sponsor TNF, but choose the Summit Series Ventrix 元) I haven't had this happen yet, but then again, my Nano Air sits in the closet most of the time, now that I have my 元 Ventrix :-D Nano Air does not have these and as someone mentioned, fabric can snag. ![]() TNF has highly abrasion material added in shoulders and elbows. Version 2.0 now has dual chest pockets, thus now on par with Nano Air in this regards ![]() Side pockets are much better on 元 Ventrix than the Nano Air because they are bigger and above the harness or backpack straps moresoe than Nano Air smaller pockets Ventrix insulation is as stretchable as FullRange used in Patagonia Nano Air, and just as breathable but a tad bit warmer (1.0 version) I find my Nano Air hood fits tight around my chin and face when fully zipped but not uncomfortably tight since it stretches but enough to notice. They should have reduced the hood insulation to 40gsm especially if going under the helmet. Nano Air fits under the helmet and uses same insulation 60gsm as body. Hood on 元 Ventrix is much more versatile and fits perfectly over helmet and is adjustable so it can be worn comfortably without a helmet. If you size up on Nano Air so that the arms/chest/shoulders fit better, then sleeves and hem length become ridiculously long! I don't have this issue with 元 Ventrix or any Arc'teryx jackets in same size. very tight arms, and tight chest and shoulders even with the 4 way stretch provided by the FullRange insulation and outer/inner fabric (I would consider myself a slim guy). ![]() Why isn't The North Face Summit Series 元 Ventrix 1.0 (2017 w/80gsm insulation) or 2.0 (2018 w/60gsm insulation + dual chest pockets) in your list of considerations?I have both the updated Patagonia Nano Air and TNF Summit Series 元 Ventrix 1.0, and regret getting the Nano Air due to: What's your take on that? Not that I'd intend to wear it out in the rain but it's nice knowing the Nano Air at least has a DWR finish. Thanks everyone else for the input, still leaning Nano Air/Light. Almost pulled the trigger right away but read that it's not at all water resistant (as in quickly soaked all the way through), which might be a deal breaker for me in the PNW. Somehow I totally missed the Ascendant in my search, thanks. ![]()
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